with rob portman, playing the role of president obama, researched his debate performance against john mccain and some others, and doing his level best to get under romney's skin and romney's just about what a tough debater portman is, on a number of cases, it's been portman's responsibility to try to irritate mitt romney or trip him up on the issues and he's played an important role on this and this debate is six segments, 15 minutes long east and the first three are about the economy and the fourth is obama care and health care reform. the fourth is on governoring and the 5th is role of government. all of these things will dominate the discussion, but romney is planning after this coming debate on wednesday, before the policy speech on the week before the vice-president debates, the attempts by the romney ryan campaign, to go beyond the economy and try to do the whole campaign contrast in the last four years. >> an exciting time for all the americans who said now, carl, they'll tune in more, leading up to the debate. thank you, campaign carl, good to see you. moving on now to preside